Or, in honor of the Vancouver Olympics, "Walking a-boot".
Oh, Lordy. This post ended up being quite long, and quite possibly boring. Oops. Blame February.
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So today, we're going to discuss some things that I am trying to do some research about. (These posts never really get a huge comment response, but I persevere. Mostly because I want to graduate). Y'all can help, if you'd like. Then we can all graduate!*
This is one research project that I could really use your help with; I've been calling it the "Transience of Care" study when I talk to people (more on this name in a bit).
Remember these ladies? This experience - someone who shows up, in labor, with no prior prenatal care at our particular hospital - is a relatively common occurrence at my Big City Hospital.
This is a story told in many ways:
- Type A: I received prenatal care, but it was in a different city/country/continent and I don't have records
- Type A1: I recieved prenatal care, and ta-da! here are my records.
(We love Type A1s. They are rare. Also: sometimes they don't give you records if you don't ask for them. Maybe there's a Type A1a - I have records, but they're in my purse, so you just repeated all my labs and you didn't need to and you should just learn to ask, so there.)
- Type B: I never received prenatal care, not anywhere.
- Type C: I've never gotten formal outpatient prenatal care at your institution, but I've been to triage so many times that it has become my de facto prenatal care site
and, what I believe is the most common (and most reviled by the nursing staff and residents):
- Type D: I recieved prenatal care. It was here in Large Urban Area, but I didn't like them/didn't know what hospital they were affiliated with/just called an ambulance for the closest hospital with my first contraction/was walking by/my mom said you guys were great/heard you have private rooms for postpartum patients.**
All of these patients, Types A-D, are called "walk-ins". You know: "Oh, you're admitting patient X for labor? Who's her doctor? Ah, she's a walk-in."
I happen to be all for patient options, and to be honest, I'm even ok with people voting with their feet (and Medicaid dollars) when they don't like their care. Hurray for free markets!** HOWEVER. Walk-ins are killer on your staff. Why?
Well, for one thing, it is very hard to get 9 months worth of work done in one visit while actually admitting someone in labor, and that it leads to a large amount of hostility. However, the frustration associated with this kind of patient presentation is incredibly high. It's not just that the amount of work is resented; it seems to be something more painful than that. Perhaps it's how the entire walk-in approach seems to show that the patient doesn't really appreciate any of the work we do for its complexity or its importance or its cost. ("Oh, everything you did for my whole pregnancy can just be easily and painlessly reconstituted over the next hour.") I think there's also an element of perceiving the patient as either manipulative ("She is using MY tax dollars to come here because she doesn't like Other Hospitals bathrooms? Why is that fair?") or irresponsible ("Why didn't she get proper care, at one location, like you're supposed to? She is not fit to be a mother.").
What's going on here is not entirely clear. Although some of the patients are very, very savvy and manipulating the system for their own benefit and going all Milton Friedman on us, most are not. Most are unsophisticated and low on resources and really not terribly clueful about how to get good care. They don't know that there's a system, and a rhyme, and a reason. They didn't know that you're supposed to go somewhere specific for delivery; they didn't know that they were getting a particular type of good and consistent care. So they just show up and hope for the best.
My idea was to study these patients, in comparison to patients with more conventional prenatal care. Like all research work, I have both some guesses and an agenda.
The guesses:
a) The walk-in group will demonstrate the receipt of suboptimal care and outcomes, although which outcomes I can usefully measure to demonstrate this is unclear.
Thankfully, most terrible outcomes are rare enough that to show a meaningful difference between transient care patients and usual care patients would require an ENORMOUS cohort. That is unlikely to happen; see above, re: desire to graduate.
So we will have to settle for less-than-ideal outcomes instead of horrific ones - c-sections, perhaps, or use of antibiotics, or longer-than-normal hospital stays, the rates of which I have a strong hunch will be higher in my walk-in population. Or NICU stay for the baby, because I think we don't always have either great dating or group B strep status on these patients.
b) I'm not sure what the cost-effectiveness will be, or whether is reasonable to think about measuring it. Why? Well, because, sadly, prenatal care has never been shown to be really cost-effective. This always depends on how you define both cost and effectiveness, because of course, the cheapest thing to do is to offer no care to anybody. But then, you know, people die, and somehow we all decide that that's not really what we wanted to accomplish. So we then get into long discussions, and the discussion ends up with talking about how to meaninfully measure what we did want to accomplish. And currently that measure is QALYs -Quality Adjusted Life Years. Meaning, we try to figure out how much more quality-of-life you get for how long (that's the effectiveness) per dollar (that's the cost). In the U.S., $50-100,000 per QALY is considered reasonable.
My point of this was that even when using QALYs as a unit, prenatal care has never been shown to be cost-effective. But we all agree that prenatal care is a Good Thing (although the timing and amount can be debated). So it may just be that we have not figured out a way to calculate the Goodness of this Thing. However, although I'm sure Walk-Ins are more expensive than non-Walk-Ins, it's hard to demonstrate a lack of cost-effectiveness when even conventional prenatal care does not demonstrate cost-effectiveness. Is that clear at all?
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Those are my guesses. Here's my agenda.
I think I'd like to prove what I usually I tell these patients. Here is my little speech: I am happy to take care of you. You are always welcome here. But this is a bit of a waste, isn't it? You worked hard, for 9 months, to take care of yourself and your baby, and I can't use any of that hard work, because I do not have access to those records. We'll do the best we can today, and we won't let anything bad happen to you, but we've lost an opportunity. In the future, try to give yourself the advantage of all the effort you put in, and bring your records, or get your care at the same hospital unless you have a really good reason to leave.
Because y'all know I like to educate a bit before discharging people from triage. And, in the end, I want the walk-in patients to be smarter about how they get their care. So I'd like to prove to them that working with the system - going to the hospital that knows them - is actually to their benefit.
That being said, although I think the patient suffers slightly (and I think demonstrating this and making it an element of public knowledge is really the way to make it change), the true highest cost of the walk-in patient is probably that provider frustration that I discussed above. (And, as you can guess from this, that's an emotional decider, and thus something I am interested in.) However, I don't really know how to measure provider frustration, and I'm pretty convinced that even if I did, it's not a valued outcome; it wouldn't be something that would require a policy change. I'm going to leave that behind and stay with the more conventional outcomes, at least for now.
(We could, of course, argue that provider frustration/burnout/fatigue is somehow linked to poorer care. It probably is, on a subtle level; but my guess [and hope!] would be that, as professionals, this low-level frustration doesn't generally lead to terribly different outcomes on an individual patient basis.)
All right. So that's that. Remember, please, that I have a very limited public health background, so if I've gotten something wrong about QALYs or other stuff, please correct me in the comments.
But now we've come to your job. Here's how you can help. The first step to all good research is to look at what's already been done, i.e. the literature review; both so you don't replicate it, and so you know how people are talking about this.
So far, I have tried the following in order to produce a literature review:
- prenatal care patterns
- prenatal care utilization
- (delivery) (prenatal care) site OR location OR center OR hospital
- transient prenatal care
- fragmented prenatal care
- every conceivable combination of the above
Very few results have returned, and none dealing with my "Walk-In" problem.
This is either because
a) I am a genius! I have diagnosed a new social problem and now I have the field all to myself
OR
b) I am an idiot and I cannot find the five-hundred papers written on this problem already because I don't know the right terms.
I am highly suspicious that the answer is "b". Part of my suspicion arises from the fact that this seems very closely related to a Hot Topic right now, which is the universal electronic medical record much debated in policy analysis and politics. You know this idea, the one where we're going to save bazillions of dollars because doctors will be able to get all your results from some giant computer system rather than re-doing all your care? Doesn't that sound somewhat adjacent to my walk-in research? Thus, must be much-discussed. Therefore, can anyone out there tell me what the proper search terms are?^
Also, do you think this is interesting? Clearly, this is a very geographically limited problem - it's only going to be an issue in large cities, for example, with multiple available hospitals with obstetric services. So, is this just about my life? Or something larger?
*I will make room for everybody on my diploma, not to worry.
**This classification system was just invented while writing this post, and needs work, particularly because you can be a Type C and a Type A/B/D.I thnk instead, I will need to divide it out into two axes: care provided and care documented. Thus, Axis 1: what kind of care did you receive and where? And Axis 2: Do we have access to the records of that care?
***Sorta. Really, because of all the Medicaid, arguably neither free nor a market. But still: a mention for the Bearded Economist, for whom my general misuse of this term is actually physically painful. Heh heh.
^Got tired of counting asterisks. I already asked my Facebook friends for suggestions. Useless, that lot. (Not really. They tried; that's where I got some of the terms above.) But I have high hopes of you.
Thinking about some groups more likely to experience adverse outcomes:
ReplyDeleteMamas with disabilities, especially developmental (intellectual) impairments
Mamas who require an interpreter, because their first language isn't English (ESPECIALLY mamas who are Deaf!).
Mamas expecting a baby who will need additional perinatal and postnatal care - NTD, CHD and such. Particularly where baby may need access to top level NICU and ends up being flown etc.
Mamas who are very very young or who for any other reason need even more advocacy than usual from your fabulous self and colleagues.
I have profound physical impairments which place my support needs squarely beyond what an ordinary ward can handle, meaning that with each admission I'm stuck sometimes for 48 hours + without access to some fairly critical stuff - impacting not just my comfort but my safety significantly.
Sorry if this is obvious--but regarding your literature search--have you talked to a medical librarian? I've found that science librarians (my field) are really helpful.
ReplyDeleteI am not a medical librarian but a retired research librarian and I wonder if you are not being too specific with your search. I tried a search using only prenatal care and then narrowed the long list down to delayed or no prenatal care. The first article I found was from the January 2010 Maternal and Child Health Journal titled "Initiation of and Barriers to Prenatal Care Use Among Low-Income Women in San Antonio, Texas" Another good source is to look at the bibliographies used for articles that deal with prenatal care but not specifically your question. You may find more articles this way. Just a thought - you may have a perspective on the issue that has not received a lot of attention. Mary R
ReplyDeleteLibrarians ahoy! Not obvious, Emily - I think in this age of PubMed, I forget that they are available, and when I did rememember, I didn't approach them because I can never get to the library when it's open. But why it took me this long to think of emailing them, I can only blame on February. I'll do it tomorrow!
ReplyDeleteAnon, you're right. I found some articles (and a ton on prenatal care) but none addressing this idea of shopping for delivery site, or walk-in, or whatever it's called. But I should probably print some of those articles and read them (and their reference lists!) in full just to see where they go with this.
C, no helpful library thoughts over here, but your comments about prenatal care not really being cost-effective made me wonder about that. Could one make the argument that women with limited resources are (perhaps unconsciously) choosing to not spend their limited resources on something which is not cost effective? Sort of the Freakonomics (I think, I haven't read it, relying on a summary from my husband) idea that drug dealers make a slightly higher hourly wage than if they flipped burgers at McD's, so they are making a reasonable economic decision? The pregnant ladies have figured out that the odds of no/crappy/fragmented prenatal care actually costing them, in terms of money or health, are quite low, so they're not really prioritizing it?
ReplyDeleteI also wonder about research on the doctors, not on the patients. Given that prenatal care isn't cost-effective, why are doctors so committed to it? Why is it so frustrating for doctors to have walk-ins? Culture of medicine is kind of an interesting topic to me...
And I don't mean to suggest that doctors SHOULDN'T be frustrated, only curious about exploring that more.
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I'm a maternal & child health researcher at a large state research univ connected to a large academic hospital...we are in a suburban area, but get women (particularly high risk, low income women) from 16 rural counties. This is a quick response (since I'm procrastinating coding some qualitative data) but here are a couple of things I see:
ReplyDeleteI think you need to focus on one subset of the walk-in population...the one that may be most useful are the ones that have received care (so we know interventions have occurred and records are out there somewhere), but are choosing to change at the time of delivery...Then, if you want to make a cost-effectiveness argument, you can look at continuity of care and the costs associated with the lack of coordinated care. Also, there are interventions that happen during prenatal care that do have some cost-effectiveness, particularly when you are looking at reducing the likelihood of poor fetal outcomes (I know you are a maternalist, but the $$ is often more quantifiable on the fetal/child side) like low birth weight, prematurity, and NICU stays.
This statement:
"You worked hard, for 9 months, to take care of yourself and your baby, and I can't use any of that hard work, because I do not have access to those records. We'll do the best we can today, and we won't let anything bad happen to you, but we've lost an opportunity. In the future, try to give yourself the advantage of all the effort you put in, and bring your records, or get your care at the same hospital unless you have a really good reason to leave."
For the women that have had care, especially local care, this statement makes me think that you need to look at some systems issues... WHY can't you get the records? Do the hospitals not play nicely? Are there agreements in place for these types of situations? If so, are they used? Does it take too long to get the records? What is going on with that piece - that is a study unto itself.
For the women that have had care, I also think you should look at some issues surrounding the providers: Are a majority of the women coming from a particular provider group or hospital? How is that group structured - do the women feel like they have an obstetric medical home? What messages are providers who see a large number of low-education/low-resource clients giving to their clients about the importance of continuity of care?
Another question that could be thrown into the mix is postpartum visit utilization: What is happening to the women that receive prenatal care elsewhere and then deliver in your hospital? Are they getting a postpartum visit? If so, who are they going to - their original provider or the clinic associated with your hospital? Is the L&D record getting transmitted back to their original provider? If so, how?
Sorry this is alot and not particularly organized, but if I can be of help, don't hesitate to email at tasteofrue AT gmail dot com.
I hate to comment again, but I just want to say: Kotelchuck index! I would think that there may be some differences in women who receive adequate prenatal care (as graded by the KI) and then go to a different hospital for delivery, vs women who received inadequate prenatal care and then show up on your labor floor. The KI would also give you a tool to measure and compare prenatal care utilization when you are describing your population of walk-ins.
ReplyDeleteOk, I really need to get back to my mountain of transcripts! :)
Kaiser Permanente's archive of published articles contains about 3,600 on something related to "prenatal" and since we are the largest HMO I'm sure some of them must discuss the walk-in, no prenatal care patients. The national web site is
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If it is not open to the public, these are the contact people for our research:
National Media Hotline
510-271-5953
Danielle Cass
510-267-5354
Trish Doherty
510-267-2870
Laura Dunn
510-267-2818
Lorna Fernandes
510-271-5624
Farra Levin
510-267-7364
Susannah Patton
510-271-5826
Good luck!
I'm finally at a computer where I can comment!
ReplyDeleteApropros of almost nothing, this blogger (http://thefeministbreeder.com/how-to-have-a-better-vbac/) tells her readers that they can switch providers at any point in the pregnancy if their needs aren't being met--she's "seen a mother switch at 40 weeks pregnant." This is *totally* not the population you're talking about or working with ("feminist breeders" who want VBACs), but I thought it was an interesting confluence anyway. Since I just read this today, and saw the other post today, too.
Found this post via Ob-Gyn Kenobi and am very intrigued! I'm getting my master's in public health with a focus on maternal and child health. I think this is very interesting and worthwhile. Cities have a large proportion of the population - if it happens a lot in cities, it's happening a lot. And if it has negative health consequences, then people can start looking at why it happens and how it can be reduced.
ReplyDeleteFor articles, how about this?
Health care costs associated with changing clinics and “walk-in” deliveries: evidence supporting a regionalized health information network. American Journal of Obstetrics and Gynecology - Volume 198, Issue 6 (June 2008)
Just one article, but the bibliography may lead you further.
@Rebecca: THANK YOU. You won't believe it, but I had never found that article. Whoo hoo - what a huge help for a start!
ReplyDeleteGlad I could help! Really enjoying your blog, and hope you can keep us updated the progress of your project.
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